2,007 years after Christ's birth, some people still misuse his name

[thatcrazycajun]

...including the Pontiff of the church that the man himself supposedly founded. Speaking at St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican yesterday in his annual New Year's Day Mass (see Reuters story here), Pope Ratzi inveighed against anyone who, even unknowingly, undermines the traditional heterosexual-based two-parent family as a threat to world peace. Guess he means these folks in New Hampshire...

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[technoshaman.livejournal.com]

Then again, what would you expect from the leader of the Inquisition?

I fully expect that, if things continue on their present course, there to be schism in both the Catholic and Anglican communions, maybe by the end of the year even.

But until those sticks in the mud recognize that the same people they think of as an abomination have been kind and loving even unto this happy little mostly-pagan, and more than that a force for justice and peace in places that used to have bullets flying around them on a regular basis (South Africa, in particular), things will continue in the general direction of Sheol...

Alas, poor Karol. I miss ye, laddie.

[robin-june.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, you could hold these examples up to such opinion-holders, 2 cms below their noses, and they would still deny the reality being rubbed in their faces.

[katrinb.livejournal.com]

Funny. The only people I see out there undermining my (heterosexual, two-parent) family are the people claiming that it's so weak, fragile and undesirable that it'll fall apart the minute anyone else's family gets civil rights, too. And those who argue that I ought to be forced to choose between an unwillingly celibate marriage (undermining the health and closeness of our relationship) or continual pregnancy (undermining my health, my children's health, our financial security, our ability to care for our children and provide a decent life for them, and, oh, yes, my basic humanity, reducing me to nothing more than a uterus with legs).

Frankly, I suspect the biggest factor in undermining American families, heterosexual or otherwise (though not, through the grace of Goddess, my own) is poverty, pure and simple. Nothing to do with gay folks or their children, and nothing that can be solved by punishing gay people for existing, or their children for "choosing" the "wrong" parents. And one of the biggest threats to world peace is increasingly unequal distribution of increasingly scarce resources - exacerbated precisely by the overpopulation that Pope Benedict wants to encourage as much as possible.

Of course, ultimately the responsibility for shoring up and defending my marriage is not the government's or the Catholic Church's - or even the religion to which I actually belong - it's Jason's and mine. And speaking as a pro-gay-rights, pro-birth-control, pro-choice, non-Catholic, non-Christian, I think my family, my marriage and my child are quite healthy, thank you very much.

[robin-june.livejournal.com]

So if he doesn't abandon vows of celibacy and start a heterosexual-based family of his own, isn't he undermining the institution?

Or, on the other hand, since nuns are all said to be brides of Christ, as a member of a holy order like them, is he a bride of Christ too?

[jannyblue.livejournal.com]

Why do they always focus on the stuff the pope says about gay people?

Don't they know there are MORE things "wrong" with what straight couples do according to the Vatican?

I'm so glad I left anything resembling Christianity when I was 16. I'd hate to be mistaken for someone small-minded.

[stevemb.livejournal.com]

The Church used to be halfway competent at applying formal logic to questions in an understandable manner. (I don't agree with many of their starting premises, but that's a whole other issue.)

This "argument" just sounds like a general sputter that traditional families are good, peace is good, therefore the maintenance of the former has something to do with the maintenance of the latter.