Anti-Hillary momentum builds on the left

[thatcrazycajun]

Courtesy of Politico.com: A new website called Democratic Courage appears to be attempting to derail the ever-more-unstoppable-seeming freight train that is Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) heading for a coronation as the party's 2008 Presidential nominee. There seems to be somewhat of a bias toward former Sen. John Edwards, but any effort to put a more progressive person at the top of the Dem ticket deserves support.

Comments

[lemmozine.livejournal.com]

Yes! We must do something to prevent these radical centrists from succeeding in their evil plans to undermine progress and drag their feet on reform! My own opinion, as a liberal progressive, is that both of the dem front runners look like easy targets for the other side to beat, and what would make a great deal of sense is to nominate someone who is articulate, reasonable, looks presidential and is maybe just a little progressive. Of the candidates I've seen and heard, I think Joe Biden is probably the one who stands the best chance of actually winning against the republican guard, although Hillary does have surprisingly large support among republican women.

Obama/Clinton 08

[a-phoenix-afire.livejournal.com]

Let me let you in on a secret. The conservative media hate Hillary, snicker at Obama's chances, and outright laugh at Edwards, but if you want to see the conservative base coalesce overnight, run Biden.

The liberal media barely mention him because they don't want that grass roots effect to be readily discernible to the republicans. Both the moderates and the rabids of the right would poke out their eyes before seeing him anywhere near the white house. Of course, there's some on the middle left who feel the same way, so there's not going to be much problem with that possibility anyhow.

Re: Obama/Clinton 08

[thatcrazycajun.livejournal.com]

>>Let me let you in on a secret. The conservative media hate Hillary, snicker at Obama's chances, and outright laugh at Edwards, but if you want to see the conservative base coalesce overnight, run Biden.<<

Why? What is there about Biden that gets the right's knickers in such a twist? Frankly, given his undistinguished record in Congress and his previous failed tries at the Presidential nomination, I've been wondering what the hell he's even doing in the race at all...and why everybody seems to take him so damned seriously, besides the fact that he's been able to raise the requisite gobs of cashola.

Re: Obama/Clinton 08

[a-phoenix-afire.livejournal.com]

Simple. He's a Gawdamighty good rabble rouser who creates rabid mobs out of otherwise thinking individuals with seemingly effortless lies and shameless misrepresentation. If he had anything goin' on besides the character assassination and dirty political tricks the guy would be a real threat. As it is though, he's one of those people that everybody hates, but nobody can seem to get rid of. He's too busy playin' the game for points to actually play for keeps, but not reaching for the brass ring keeps his soft parts protected very well.

His views on the issues are the clincher for the right. If you really want to know what the core conservative belief is on any issue, simply negate what Uncle Joe has to say about it. (times 2) :-)

Clinton/Clinton in 08?

[a-phoenix-afire.livejournal.com]

Just thought you might get a kick out of the possibility implied here. ;-)

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LAW/08/columns/fl.dorf.goreclinton.08.01/

[autographedcat.livejournal.com]

There is no ever-more-unstoppable-seeming freight train. And there won't be until there've been at least 5 primaries held. Everything now is just bloviating, and it doesn't MEAN anything.

Gah. I used to love politics. I wanted to be a journalist and cover politics. Now, I can barely think about it without wanting to take a shower.